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with the deficit in the biggest way. but their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. at some point, i think what's important is that they listen to the american people. >> joining me now, congressman chris von holland of maryland. good evening. it is a good sign that chained cpi is off the table. the senate will be back tomorrow at 11:00. how high is your optimism or pessimism at this moment? >> well, it was a very bad sign when senator mcconnell put this social security change on the table, as part of a small deal, that was obviously something that could have totally thrown a monkey wrench into the process. so the fact that they backed off that is obviously good news. but as senator reid said, there are lots of obstacles still to go. and the fundamental issue remains what the president just said in that clip. both today and for the last year, the number one priority of republicans have been -- has been to use the middle class tax cuts as leverage to try and extract these super big tax breaks for very wealthy individuals, including now their f
of an overall deficit reduction package. if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obligation to the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> now, one of the questions in the days ahead will be whether or not this strategy back fired because republican leaders on the hill had their feathers ruffled by the fact that the president seemed to be blaming them. and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob beckel. are you done? >> i had a great question, but age before beauty. >> a lot of age and no beauty. >> what? >> ed, truth be known, and we see this fisca
to reduce the deficit. one trillion dollars in spending cuts over the next 10 years but these changes would result in more savings in the next 10 years and would solve our deficit problems for a decade. they say their biggest priority is dealing with the deficit. they are behaving and protecting the tax breaks for the wealthiest americans. that seems to be their overriding theme. host: a new development yesterday, the vice president joe biden was called in by mitch mcconnell, who said he needed a dance partner in all of this. guest: if you remember on friday, the president said he was going to turn over the lead to senator reid and senator mcconnell to work out a deal that could pass the senate and that he would sign on to whatever deal that was. senator reid and senator mcconnell were not able to reach that deal. the negotiations between them have turned increasingly bitter and senator mcconnell basically said that he could not work with senator read anymore and reached out to joe biden and ask him to resume the role that he has had in previous negotiations. the arbiter, the deal maker. jo
on debt and deficits. we kept on pushing it off, pushing it off into the future. now we are right at the point where we have to make a decision on debt, dficits and spending and all we're talking about is a deal on taxes. it seems very likely that tax rates on higher income people will go up. we know for a fact that social security taxes will go up tomorrow, and some obamacare taxes they kick in as well tomorrow morning. so all we're talking about at the moment is raising taxes, we are doing nothing on deficit, debt and spending, that means this wrangling, this mess will continue. rick: child tax credits get extended according to some reports now. the earned income tax credit gets he can tended. the college tax credit gets extended for another five years, these are all things that cost u.s. taxpayers a lot of money, and it's probably just the beginning. >> it sounds like they are throwing a lot of items into the tax basket. i'd like to hear what they are going to say about the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax is that included in this tax basket? you'll notice, rick all t
deficit and debt and then a more recent one that passes an extension of all the bush tax cuts. so the their position right now, at least speaker boehner's is, hey, it is time for the senate to act on some of our bills. we'll keep an eye what is happening there. heather: busy day for them. president obama taking his case to the american public. here is what he had to say about the situation playing out on capitol hill. >> what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington and if, you know, people start to see that on january 1st this problem still hasn't been solved, that we haven't seen the deficit reduction we could have had, the republicans been willing to take the deal i gave them, if they say, that people's taxes have gone up, which means consumer spending is going to be depressed, obviously that will adverse reaction in the markets. heather: there is lot at stake for all americans. three big issues on the financial front this morning as a matter of fact,. stu varney, host of "varney & company" on the fox business network joins us now. stu, no deal on capitol hi
hasn't been solved, that we haven't seen the deficit reduction that we could have had had the republicans been willing to take the deal that i gave them, if they say that people's taxes have gone up, which means consumer spending is going to be depressed, then, obviously, that's going to have an adverse reaction in the markets. >> what about automatic spending cuts? those take effect january 1st, as well. do they have to be part of this deal? you've got half of those cuts in defense law? >> well, congress agreed they would cut an additional $1.2 trillion in spending. they put a committee together to try to come up with those numbers. they didn't figure out how to do it. so what we now have is a situation where these automatic spending cuts go into place. now, if we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what is so-called the sequester, these automatic spending cuts, and that also would have a better outcome for our economy long-term. but, you know, so far, at least, congress has not been able to get this stuff
agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain or whatever you want to call it, that solves the deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that does not just deal with taxes but also spending so that we can put all this behind us and focus on growing our economy. with this congress, that was obviously too much to hope for at this time. [laughter] maybe we can do it in stages. we will solve this problem instead in several steps. in 2011, we started reducing the deficit through $1 trillion in spending cuts which have taken place. the agreement being worked on right now would further reduce the deficit by asking the wealthiest 2% of americans to pay higher taxes for the first time in two decades so that would add additional hundreds of billions of dollars to deficit reduction. that is progress but we will need to do more. keep in mind that just last month, republicans in congress of they would not agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans and the agreement being discussed would raise those rates permanently. [applause] keep in mind, we will still have more work to do. we still ha
go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let's start with you. this is a fast-moving story. give us the latest perimeters of what appears -- i emphasize appears to be the start of a deal. >> well, it has been coming closer together, so we are told. the question is wha
they are talking about the doctor fix. it will increase the size of the deficit. if you are looking for ways to fix the problem, we have the biggest place to go in terms of cuts. ashley: thank you so much. thank you for joining us. shibani: the city of chicago is number one and parking costs. giving chicago the most expensive parking meters in the country. downtown residents can look forward, starting tomorrow, to paying $6.50 for parking in 2013. up from the current rate of $5.75. back in 2008, former mayor richard daley agreed to release the parking meters to a private company. the city in turn received a billion dollars as part of the agreement. current mayor is investigating the deal, but, in the meantime, all meters will be set to the new rate to the end of february. get your quarters out. bring your dollar bills, i guess. ashley: take the bus. shibani: the midnight deadline is fast approaching. will there be a framework to avoid the fiscal cliff? ashley: up to the minute coverage from washington. guess what, republicans should just walk away now. oh, boy. ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ [ ind
. with $480 billion to decrease the deficit. we had our choice we wouldn't be doing it that way. the government is too big and in effective we could take most of the money by decreasing spending. the 11th hour and there are a lot of people who shouldn't be having tax increases if we don't reach a compromise. so those are two different questions and i'm not about to give up the $1.2 trillion. we haven't cut a penny yet. so, that is not something i'm willing to give up. that is the thing. let start there. your book, your work, your speeches, you have identified hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars of waste that the government doesn't need and the country doesn't need and it seems to evaporate. and from what i gather, the debate right now is whether to put off the spending cuts, it is always maniana when it come to spending, sir. and you no as well as i do, taxing the successful earners is not going to solve our problem. >> there is one bright side. if this bill happens, 95% of americans are going to have rates locked in. they are going to have some sernl ti for the future
, now he's mad at howard schultz because he wants to, i don't know, do something with the deficit near term. can we go another five years without having some kind of reckoning in the bond market or somewhere else? >> you know, the european crisis has been quite instructive for my mind in this. but the reality is democracies don't really take tough decisions until they're put under enormous pressure from some external factor, in this case, the stock market. i find myself -- and i still think it today -- that oddly in the events of europe come out of the germans next door with something much more clear about a nurch path of the eurozone, and so people did start to believe the euro is a true global reserve currency to compete with the u.s., that might be the point where the u.s. starts to come under sear use pressure from the markets. of course wrb to some degree, the past -- well, longer, going back to august of last year, the u.s. had this strange benefit that this persisting european crisis is around and sort of global investors can't deal with two huge clem mas at the same time. but i
of representatives in the senate. they have to be taken into the -- >> did is it reduce the deficit, which is the whole point of this in the first place, right? >> about $1 billion maybe. >> republicans are essentially arguing against deficit reduction. they're looking for higher thresholds, which curtail deficit reduction. i want to ask you this, because isn't there a philosophical sort of win for the democrats anyway because this will be the first time republicans were enacting a tax increase, you know, since biggie and tupac were alive? septemb isn't that a win? >> yes, that is a win. i think that a lot of this could come down to this paired down democratic plan that could come up on the senate floor. if everything else goes out the window, it's the strictly $250,000 threshold, you know, extend unemployment insurance, and come up with a broader plan and punt everything else. >> does it get to the house? can that get through the house? >> right. >> the house people are telling me, house republicans are telling me, that if the margin in the senate is, like, 70-30, then clearly speaker boe
our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way, so that we can put all this behind us focusing on growing our economy. but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> let's turn now to chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. let's talk a little bit about the outlines of the deal, the fact that the president came out to make his case and try to push this thing over the finish line. what does the white house have to do to gain the backing it needs. >> reporter: well, what we heard from the president today just now was really an emphasis that there are a lot of components here for democrats to like because their focus especially is on making sure that -- because i should say democrats really need to come out in force for this to get across the finish line. what you asked is also what is in this measure. tax increase or taxes to -- would go back to the clinton levels for people who make $400,000 a year, or households that make $450,000 a y
that republicans believe it should be about. it ought to be reducing the deficit and debt. >> senator mcconnell has spoken a couple times with the president and two of them have come up bipartisan deals to get through congress. >> those conversations and discussions continue. we remain hopeful that that will have a breakthrough. obviously what happened between the two leaders in the senate have broken down because the senate democrats fail to come forward with a counteroffer to the proposal that republicans made last night. hopefully the discussions between senators and mcconnell will be something we can vote on today or tomorrow that would add veteran what we believe would be an economic disaster. >> will you take a scaled down version, raising taxes on everybody, do you think your republican colleagues that enough republicans will opt over on the democratic side if needed? >> it's hard to say until we know exactly what might be in it. this is what i would say about it. if that is where we ends up. if we decides to move a bill on the floor and extension and put it on vehicle for that, he ought to
on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. kelly o., i'm looking at the clock, we are now 14 hours and 58 minutes from going over the fiscal cliff. let's outline -- >> reporter: but who's counting, right, chris? >> yeah, who's counting? let's go over for people, what remains unresolved? it seems like two weeks ago they were pretty well set on the basic parameters of this thing, so let's talk about what's left to deal on? >> reporter: well, there are some significant differences, but there has been progress. i've been talking to sources who say that the vice president and mitch mcconnell stayed on the phone exchanging calls until around midnight last night and that staffers who are key to this process continue talking after that. as you know, there are very few people in the room, so to speak, who really have their fingerprints on whatever deal may eventually come and what has been passed between the two sides so far. about six proposals back and forth, and i
. >> if we are going to be serious about the deficit and debt reduction, then it's going to have to be a matter of shared sacrifice. at least as long as i'm president. i am going to be president for the next four years. >> president obama said a deal is in sight and appeared at a campaign style event to remind everyone he is winning and g.o.p. is not. >> last month, republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. the agreement currently discussed would raise those rates, raise them permanently. >> republicans suggest the event may backfire to accuse the republican of rubbing their nose in defeat. >> the president won. we know that. he won fair and square. isn't it now time to govern? >> the president was out of line with his comments at 1:30 afternoon. this is a delegate time. i think the democrats would be embased after what the president did. >> after months of the president promising a balanced approach there are only tax hikes for rich without new spending cuts. today he hinted at more tax hikes ahead. warning republicans th
they would like to see something that addresses the long-term deficit. whether that can happen in this deal seems to be the problem. democrats have said if they can get something bigger they would be open to changes in entitlements. that is where things stand. there is clearly even handed on both sides saying they want to get things done. you know the clock is running and those signs make everyone think this may not resolve itself tonight. >> thank you very much. >>> let's go to the white house and kristen welker. hi there. >> reporter: hi, there. the white house is not commenting on these developments. senior administration officials say the action is going on on the hill right now. they are hesitant to weigh in. they don't want to disrupt any progress or setbacks that may be in the process of being resolved. so that is what the white house is saying publicly. i can tell you that behind the scenes it is a very busy day here at the white house. staffers have been on the phone with their counter parts on the hill. president obama also on the phone as you heard report he has spoken a number o
to be reducing the deficit and debt. they say they want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> you have spoken a few times with the prize -- the vice president and it seems they have been able to come up with bipartisan deals. did he give you an indication that you just had with fellow republicans that it may be an avenue of success? >> there were conversations and discussions between us and we remain hopeful that it will be a breakthrough. obviously, what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because they had come forward with a counter offer to what republicans said last night. hopefully the discussions between the vice-president and senator mcconnell will get us back on track and we will have a breakthrough and something we can vote on today or tomorrow to avert what we all believe would be an economic disaster. >> harry reid is as if you cannot come up with something by tonight that he will push a scaled-down version of what the president asked for, the tax cuts on everyone making above $250,000. you say knowing your colleagues tha
to the deficit, i just want to make sure that that money goes to the deficit in reality. it seems to me that that number comes up and is a political situation and what congress is really saying is that i am going to pander to the 98% because if i go to 125%, i will upset more of the electorate. i was listening to david brooks this morning and his comments that the real dysfunctional people are not necessarily congress, but the american people who are prepared to pass these deficits on to our grandchildren. >> have you looked at how any tax increases might affect you? had you planned for that at all? caller: i am comfortable enough, i am planned -- and i plan to give more. i would hope that most people in my financial situation would be prepared to do that. >> the democratic line is next, california. donna, hello. caller: i would like to state -- i think that one of our biggest problems is that the republican party has sold us out to grovers inquest. i think that everyone who took that pledge should be fired from the congress. they took an oath of office first. they have given away the o
that republicans believe this debate ought to be about. a dog to be reducing the deficit and debt. they say they want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> you have spoken a few times with the prize -- the vice president and it seems they have been able to come up with bipartisan deals. did he give you an indication that you just had with fellow republicans that it may be an avenue of success? >> there were conversations and discussions between us and we remain hopeful that it will be a breakthrough. obviously, what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because they had come forward with a counter offer to what republicans said last night. hopefully the discussions between the vice-president and senator mcconnell will get us back on track and we will have a breakthrough and something we can vote on today or tomorrow to avert what we all believe would be an economic disaster. >> harry reid is as if you cannot come up with something by tonight that he will push a scaled-down version of what the president asked for, the tax cuts on eve
. and really, is not interested in a balanced approach to deficit reduction. it's been pretty clear that that's the story we have been telling and it happens to be the truth. >> i understand that two of colleagues proposed cuts to medicare for a hike in the debt ceiling. what do you make of that offer? >> i think one of the things that people don't realize is that it's a dirty little secret. the republicans don't want to cut the things that americans want cut. and they want to cut things that americans don't want cut. poll after poll shown americans do not want deficit reduction done by cutting medicare and medicare and social security. so they propose and saw the same scenario when paul ryan put the budget out and because the american people rejected the kind of draconian cuts that the republicans want to make so, you know, that's a nonstarter in the senate. i think it's a nonstarter with the president. sure can pass the house but going nowhere past that. >> the smaller offer we hear that the president is making at 3:00, to congressional leadership, what kind of offer would you like to see t
is this because supposed to be a down payment on deficit reduction, and when you think about the things that could be in this bill, whether it's increasing rates for doctors in medicare, as well as possibly delaying the defense sequester, this bill could actually cost money and increase the deficit especially when you're talking about the tax rates. because remember cbo assumes that the tax rates are actually going to go back to clinton rates. so that is going to be a cost there. and that will be a problem in the house if this score comes back as blowing a hole in the deficit that will be a problem getting the votes even if they get a tkaoefrpblgts you're no deal. >> reporter: you're not confident at all that the money they get will be used to pay don't debt. >> i think some of it will. when you think about all the things that could be in this bill there are some pricey price tags here that are going to increase this bill and basically that is going to be a problem when house conservatives hear that this is actually going to increase the deficit. there will also be a problem for the credit rating
there will be a deal, even if one that doesn't solve all of our long-term debt and deficit problems. here's bob corker. >> i do think there's going to be a resolve to this. the problem is, you know, we created this fiscal cliff to make some tough decisions. and none are going to be made. not one. >> so the question is going to be then, do the tough decisions on spending get made in january and february, running up to the debt limit. we'll see how that goes. we'll see if it actually gets done today. you hear positive things from talk, but you can't trust anything until reid and mcconnell come out on the senate floor and say they have a deal. and then boehner puts it on the house floor. >> it's interesting now, that mcconnell has reached out to the vice president and is doing a deal, specifically that way, rather than involving it would appear at this stage the democrats in the senate. are they now more fractious in actually passing a deal potentially from the gop in the house? >> no. i think it is just dynamics of late-stage negotiations that when you get to the really hard parts, you've got to go high
about 8% of the deficit problem over the next ten years. we have a $1.3 trillion deficit for 2012. it will be about a trillion for 2013. we're borrowing 35 cents on the dollar. the enormous problem is interest rates are way below normal, so when they spike, which they inevitably will, and the government is borrowing very short term to keep its costs down, the deficit is going to swamp the economy. and at that point you're going to have the debt crisis, and you're going to need a whole new stream of revenues. the only thing that paul krugman and paul ryan agree on, in a crisis situation, only a value-added tax will solve this problem. by raising marginal tax rates to get us out of this potential crisis. so we need very, very steep spending cuts, all of the emphasis and debate has been over marginal tax rates which are really a minor part of the solution, no matter what political strife you happen to be. you have to realize that tremendous spending cuts are necessary and already the -- any changes to social security have been ruled out in a short-term solution and it's going to be v
bargain. whatever you want to call it. that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way. with this congress, that was obviously a little bit too much to hope for at this time. it may be we can do it in stages. >> there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart but negotiations are continuing as i speak. but we really are running out of time. >> the vice president and i have worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. >> no holiday for the best political team around. a triple threat, luke russert and mike viqueira on the capitol hill and kristen welker from the white house. are you happy to be working on the holiday? >> it's fantastic. >> absolutely. >> sounded believable. viq, let's start with you. we have news trickling out today. working, trying to make a deal. what's going on? >> it's washington, d.c. nothing is as it appears. we6 classic kabuki theater going on here, toree. the president, jovial, said they were close to a deal. that joe biden, the negotiations with mitch mcconnell essentially borne fruit. republicans annoyed wi
: will that tax solve the deficit spending? >> it will if you include 2%, 250,000 for couples, 200,000 for individuals and above. you start taxing capital gains and dividends, reinstate that and get rid o $109 billion in corporate taxes every year. you're looking it over $300 billion. ." tom: upside-down by trillion closet -- a trillion dollars. not even close to fixing the deficit spending. still adding to the debt under republican and democrat programs >> this kind of class warfare rhetoric is serving a purpose. the reality is the proposed tax increases will fund the federal government for approximately eight days. it might make people feel good and that's a reason to pass it. frankly, i don't hear any politicians talking reality but the fiscal problems facing the country which is democrat or republican. tom: do you have any hope that the blame game can be put aside so they can get some work done? in the private sector these people would be fired. >> absolutely. this is a do nothing congress, the least active in four years when it comes to policy making, and the reason we are her
not been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we could have had, had the republicans been willing to take the deal they gave them, and if they say that people's taxes have gone up which means consumer spending will go down. >> and keep in mind that the senate is the first hurdle. any deal has to pass the house. we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, and dana, you have been there and talking to people, and where are we on this? >> well, the senate majority leader harry reid was on the floor moments ago saying that the senate will reconvene at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow. the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 tomorrow, and that means no senate votes tonight which is not good news for everybody looking at the calendar and looking at the watch at this
, to pay for more government spending that doesn't help us with the deficit. and you hear members of congress, your republican colleagues who say, in my district, they don't want more spending. and that's how they see this money being spent. >> two things i would say. first of all, that is not the democratic position. no one that i know of is arguing that all of the increased revenue should go for increased spending nap simply isn't the case. by the way not having the sequester doesn't mean increased spending. it mean not having spending cuts. i voted against the idea of a sequester. i think it's not right way to do it. what the republicans want to do is spend more on defense. let me deal with this notion that republicans for cutting spending. you heard mitt romney criticize president obama because he's not spending enough on ships, which we don't need, and not staying long enough in the war zones. the republicans' view of spending is very particular one. secondly, as far as the american people are concerned, people in their districts, gee, if they represent districts in new jerse
. their biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way. the way they are behaving, their only priority is making sure tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. seems to be their only overriding unifying theme. >> now, ali, a poll shows republicans will bear more of the blame in this if we do go over the cliff. but the incentive to do something continues even if we go over the cliff. the expectation is come midnight tonight, this is not resolved, even if there isn't some sort of deal, a framework, there is still going to be work done and still be members of congress and the white house trying to wrap this up here in the next few days. >> polls show not only republicans will get the blame and the country supports the president by 2/3 in raising the taxes on the rich. in 20 years if we go over the cliff, you won't remember the name of the speaker of the house or senate majority leader who is responsible. you will remember the name of the president your honor whom it happened. it's probably important to remind viewers, christine, there are people in americ
billion for the economy. that would help the federal government in terms of dealing with the deficit, but nonetheless, it still won't be enough, but it will be a start in that direction. that's the current cutoff, but we don't have that deal yet. absent that deal and as long as the clock keeps ticking, all of this is on the table for all of us. one more thing i should mention, bear in mind this past year, all of us have enjoyed a payroll tax vacation. payroll taxes were reduced across the country to help people deal with this bad economy right now. that's ending. there's no sign that's not going to end. everyone is going to pay a little more anyway. what we're worried about is this extra level on top. that is what many volters are paying attention to and that is the real bear in the woods that has democrats and republicans both worried about these negotiations. >> the clock, as you point out, is ticking, ticking, ticking right now. tom, thank you. >>> what's at stake for the millions of americans already out of a job once the country goes over the fiscal cliff? that and much more whe
. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt, and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes. we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> so what happens next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems to be at a standstill right now. let's review the bidding. here it is from a republican source here on the republican side of capitol hill. all day yesterday they were trading proposals back and forth. by his count two democratic offers came back to republicans and four came back from republicans to democrats. the last one being at 7:00 last night, and, boom, after that, things pretty much came to a standsti standstill. no o
illustrated with a few choice words today. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone, and you hear that sometimes coming from them, sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending -- [ laughter ] shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's the formula for how we're going to solve this thing, then they've got another thing coming. >> i wanted to bring in democratic congressman john larson of connecticut with us from capitol hill. thanks for coming in. >> happy to be here. >> i want to talk spending in a moment but, first, what's your reaction to the parameters of a tax deal, a hike on incomes more than $400,000 for individuals, $450,000 for couples. your tlauts houghts on what we o far. >> we really don't know that much. we haven't seen anything in the house of representatives. i just heard luke russert say, you know, the ink isn't dry on any agreement yet. so while we're hopeful that there is an agreement that can be reached and have been prodding our colleagues to do so, th
. >> they say that the biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way, but the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> but senators say there is some movement on the issue. >> there's a lot of give and take right now but republicans doan want to see new revenues in other words, tax increases be used for spending. >> the president says if there's no deal by the end of the day, they should draw up a new tax plan. >> there should be a right to vote. if republicans don't like it they can vote no but i actually think there's a majority support for making sure the middle-class families are held harmless. >> a white house proposal to increase estate taxes also held up negotiations over the weekend. now, even if the democratic-led passes, it still has to get through the republican-controlled house. terrell? >> not looking so well. danielle nottingham in washington. thank you so much. >>> lawmakers hav agreed though, on a dramatic spike in milk prices
deficit is out of control. there have to be some spending cuts. you have to address the spending side of this column. you have to address entitlements. what the president wants to do is look at the taxes, generate enough revenue and forget about the rest of it. i do not excel. the american people have had their fill of this. they are demanding we address the spending side. you have to look at tax reform. it actually makes the problem worse. why would i kick the can down the road and why would i keep all of this that all my children and grandchildren so that their future is capped and traded to the people that own our debt? i think that is your responsibility. rich: eventually, the house will have to get involved in this one if there is a deal. dagen: and there are a number of issues where the two sides are far apart. keep in mind, the mmst important role is to avoid the tax increases. still some issues before we bring legislation to the floor. thank you so much for that, rich. we are waiting for some answers to the debacle down and d.c. i look at the nonsense and think the markets hav
on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> republicans are expressing frustration saying the president is trying to put the blame on them for going off the cliff but when senator mcconnell was brought a few days ago mcconnell's office says he got a call from senator reed or democrats to talk about the fiscal cliff in about a month. they feel like they have not gone the extra pile here. >> the vice president getting a call today. what do they make of all of that? >> that could be a big deal. it shows the white house push back they are going to say look he has been pulling out all of the stops with the vice president in delaware came to the white house today working the phones we are told they had multiple conversations with senator mcconnell. a year and a half ago they talked about raising the debt ceiling it was joe biden a lot of years working with mitch mcconnell. joe biden got a nickname as
progress [inaudible] leading the way. but just as the u.k. deficit is not balanced with the government public transport issue are not solved in one year. we're public transport continued a national priority. we can't -- [inaudible] for the like of my young cousin. we can deliver more transport to get students from point a to point b. we can build a better, brighter future for young people. so when the opposition argument say it's not a national campaign, a focus of the divided region. i tell you this, divided we are weak, but united are the nation we are strong. more nation, one notion, one campaign. better public transport. [applause] [applause] >> thank you very much ib keyed for that. i note we have been joined by the former government chief when the labour party was in office nick browne. the member of parliament. it's great to have you here. thank you for coming. to oppose the motion, i call from the east of england. [applause] >> thank you, mr. speaker. we are here for one reason. to make contain and empower the young people that we so proudly represent. but, -- the parliament ca
all heard taxing high income individuals more would only raise 5% of the deficit. another statistics that will break your eyes. if we raised everybody's income tax by 50%, we'd likely only cut the deficit in half. that should explain to everyone why it is imperative we finally do something about rapidly escalating entitlement cost but the president refuses to come to the table. nothing is fixed in my mind more than speaker boehner saying i've offered you 800 billion in additional revenue. what do i get in return? and the president said nothing. you also counted he won the election. i have got news, whether he won the election or not,let stats about the budget are neutral and nonpartisan and mr. boehner's republicans won an election too. he was elected president, not prime minister. he can't dictate to the house the way he would in england. >> as we look forward here, i heard you mention the debt commission and that's come up a couple times, that we've been down this road before with congress kind of bringing us to the brink but they always do a back deal. that has a longer lasting ef
is making sure that any new revenues go toward debt spending reduction and deficit relief rather than new spending. it's deficits that got us into this problem. it's only reducing the deficit that's will get us out of this problem. >> the key there is it's my best belief that they've reached an agreement on revenues, that means on this issue of raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. this is still a fight over tax rates for wealthy americans at this point. not sure what else is on the table. doctors, see a 27% cut on the pay they get for medicare services, that's a problem. amt. there's a whole host of people that are going to get hit if they don't fix this. >> that's tough all around for everybody. the fact he's saying it's somewhat optimistic is surprising to me. i haven't heard that much optimism, but we'll see how it goes. christine, thank you. we appreciate it. the outlook on wall street might be a little gloomy when the opening bell rings later this hour. but investors elsewhere around the world, they're actually holding steady. britain's ftse index and hong kong's hang seng inde
. this deal will do nothing to help reduce the deficit. >> senator paul, happy new year to you, to everyone out there. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> please pass along my best regards to your dad as well. >>> we have more details emerging on the secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. we'll speak with dr. gupta on the blood clot that has just been discovered between her skull and her brain. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. >>> we're following the breaking news about the secretary of state hillary clinton. diagnosed as having a blood clot in the brain. situated in the space between the brain and her skull, behind her right ear. her doctor
to pay a little bit more to reduce our deficit, and that's what's been going on for the last six months. that's what the conversation in the election was all about, but here we are. >> can you walk us through this? you said the chain cpi. i was told it was off the table. is it still on the table? >> earlier today i would have said the odds of an agreement was very low because mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, had put that into the talks. that apparently is no longer part of it. >> walk us through this, what's happening right now. are we at 250 or 400? what are we doing with unemployment? what's going on? >> well, again, there's -- no one has agreed to any particular threshold, whether it's 250, whether it's 400. unemployment insurance is something that is the an absolute requirement. the president has said and i totally agree that it's important that folks who are out of work through no fault of their own continue to get help. it's not just good for their families but the whole neighborhood and the local economy. one of the big issues in the senate has been a republican demand to
for the impasse on the gop. >> they say that their biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way but the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> reporter: but senators say there is some movement on the issue. >> there's a lot of give and take going on right now but republicans don't want to see new revenues -- in other words, democrat tax increases -- be used for new spending. >> reporter: the president said if there is no deal by the end of the day, the senate should draw up legislation to extend the bush-era tax cuts for the middle class. >> there should be an up-or- down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans doesn't like it they can vote no but i think there is a majority support to make sure that middle class families are held harmless. >> reporter: the senate will be back in session in just a few hours. and even if the senate is able to pass legislation today, it still has to get through the republican-controlled house. live on capitol hill, d
that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone, if they think that's gos to be the formula for how we solve this thing, then they've got another thing coming. that's not how it going to work. >> reporter: for his part senator mcconnell said that issue should not tan in the way of a tax deal. >> let's be clear, we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending. but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place in about ten hours. >> reporter: but other senate republicans brideeled at doing any deal now without substantial spending reductions. >> i just want to say i'm very disappointed with what the president had to say. i'm one senator. i just want to go on record, that is it's absolutely unacceptable to pay for this sequester with revenue. >> reporter: meantime there was growing grumbling in senate democratic ranks that vice president biden had given too much ground. >> as i see this thing developing, quite frankly, as i've said before, no deal is better than a bad deal. and this looks like a very bad
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